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2ndMeetingNotesCETIS Pedagogy Forum 2nd Meeting: Notes ·
Introduction & welcome by Lisa Corley, Pedagogy
Forum Co-ordinator ·
Apologies for late start
due to technical problems. ·
Overview of Agenda – reordering of first two
presentations, with Gerry & Fiona first, James second. This is because
James Dalziel has managed to incorporate (this morning) the scenarios that
Gerry & Fiona will be discussing, into the tool he will be demonstrating,
so it would be more useful for him to present these after they have been described.
Online Learning Scenarios and Learning Design Fiona and Gerry discussed Learning and Teaching
Scotland's Online Events, a series of e-learning scenarios ran over the past
few years for Primary and Secondary Schools. The events covered a number of
topics, a Virtual Oil Spill, All About Rubbish and The
Versailles Experience, which is included as a Use Case in the IMS Learning
Design Specification. The most recent event, Ticket To
Space, ran last year over an eight week period and is to be repeated again
later this year. They discussed what impact they see the IMS Specification
Learning Design having on future events, and they felt Learning Design (LD) is
a key development for the sustainable future of events such as these. About LT Scotland -
Interested in
interoperability across other sectors & rest of -
Interested in LD spec because it might support the
work they do. -
Susan Linklater (ex-LTScotland,
now with British Council) was present & also knows a lot about cases used
in the presentation -
IMS uses use cases; show some of LTScotland use
cases. -
All ran inside a VLE called Pioneer (see slide for
details); implement IMS CP 1.1.2 in 2003. May implement IMS LD or wait for
v.2.0. Want to show that what we do with elearning can also
be done with other systems. -
Fiona’s presentation: what we did and what teachers
thought of them. o
The Versailles Experience (done a while back, no
case study/feedback available) §
See slide. §
Was difficult for secondary
schools to timetable it in. o
All About Rubbish (primary schools) §
See slides. §
Screen shots: Home Waste Audit §
Case study slides (1 school used all 3 online
events) o
Virtual Oil Spill §
See slides. §
More of an interactive role play.
Classes divided into a variety of roles. o
Ticket to Space §
See slides. §
Popular event; running
again this year. §
More structured event than the others,
not much scope for teachers to do their own thing. -
Gerry’s presentation: Online events & IMS LD o
See slides. o
Want to do next: take one event and run it in
different ways. Usually run it in such a way that schools have to be bound to LTScotland’s schedule, bound to their pedagogy. Using the
same set of resources, but allow teachers to use different resources too if
wanted. o
So want a tool to run these things, maybe also end
up with a library of them, so look to IMS specs for this. Questions: BO: Time to setup? FL:
Resources took longest time. Time going out to support schools took the most
time. But the actual time to put the content on wasn’t
much time. GG:
Developing the content took a long time. But some
teachers felt the ones with less content more activities were better. Could
also pick up content from others and build activities around it. Mark
Stiles: Experts? Was that difficult; how did you do it? FL:
Approached experts first, got them to log on; fitted in well with
videoconferencing. Would have been nice to have them reply
sooner. GG:
Found with Ticket to Space, over 300 schools participated;
how to moderate the discussion forums? Sometimes 20 people per schools; too
much for one moderator. Could have “trigger points”; get another moderator when
a certain number log in; run multiple instances simultaneously instead of all
at once. Forums
become learning object themselves that future teachers could use. GG:
Could build up FAQs out of them. Susan? Susan:
Was difficult to get experts. Ticket to Space almost ended up having an FAQ. But kids would’ve liked personal response from experts. GG:
So: we want a tool! Learning Activity
Management System (LAMS) demo James Dalziel, Adjunct Professor and Director,
Macquarie E-learning Centre of Excellence (MELCOE), & Executive Director, WebMCQ Pty Ltd james@webmcq.com NB: No slides publicly available; summary slides were
distributed to meeting participants. Tool and how the LTScotland scenarios mentioned fit in. Looking
for solutions for reversing the trend of technology driving what happens in
education. -
See slides. -
LAMS is LD-inspired, not a reference
implementation. -
LD uses play/act model to describe learning
activities. -
James uses 3 parts (can describe any kind of
learning under this framework/LD framework): o
Who is involved? o
What content is needed? o
How is the activity conducted?
(tool) o
Starting to think about 4th part: When (-
runtime behaviour etc.) -
LD will have big impact in next few years because
it enables description of learning in a simple way. -
Simple example of LD: “What is Greatness?” (see
slides) o
Discussion in whole class; review of content; small
group discussion of specific questions reporting back
to big group; prepare final report for marking. o
Showed live demo of course
in LAMS. Discussion forum. Web pages with section at top with instructions for what to do. Simple
way to give context that teacher wants to give. Chat tool; gives specific
questions and posts results to whole class; motivates students stay “on task”
as they often have difficulty with this when using chat. Report
upload section. Monitoring environment- synchronous activities running
together- helps teachers monitor this. New monitoring stuff since last time:
Active sequences and Archived sequences available; Live- tells you how many
learners are online; green dots on learning design screen show where learners
are; click on them and get names; click on name and see what student is
actually doing. Alternative view- students’ activities all in
rows. This goes beyond LD spec, which doesn’t
talk about monitoring much. o
Showed authoring
environment. Authoring screen; tools (like typical VLE
tools but with strong collaborative bent). Repository
of activity sequences; private; departments and institutional levels. Opened
up one activity; showed Greatness sequence from previous demo. Can modify it in
two ways; can go in and change content or can change sequence. Showed example of changing the question for small group chat
discussions. Could also change whole thing from “What is Greatness?” to
“What is Jazz?” and change the content throughout. Changing
the sequence: put content at the beginning then have discussion after. o
We thought LD spec is wonderful but at present
teachers need to edit XML doc: so we wanted to create a user-friendly tool to
give an idea. o
Then showed examples from
LTScotland presentation. Ticket to Space example: Noticeboard intro; Small groups; Solar system resource;
Offline activity intro; Pictures and discussion sharing. So can take
this and roll it out whenever I want. Also could change it to suit my
students/teaching style/whatever. Could then give it back to
central repository at LTScotland to share it and experience with it good or
bad. Versailles Experience example: (difficult because large and complex
use case; first attempt to capture in LAMS; James did it this morning). Noticeboard
intro to Versailles; split into country groupings; given country objectives;
show country resources/search; country discussion; cross-school groups (all the
different ‘Poland’s’); task: decide priorities for negotiations; discussion
environment to talk about that; introduction to negotiating; recorder area for
negotiations; then six parallel chatrooms for private negotiations, then post
back to asynchronous negotiations; schools go back and reflect on what they
learned, resources, etc. At present cannot quite do all of country
grouping needs. o
Current state of IMS LD: §
Feeding back to Valkenburg Group §
LAMS v1.0 beta is now final and ready for use o
LAMS trials §
Trial groups K-12 schools & Universities §
Feedback positive: teachers & students like it.
Ease of authoring- make pedagogy questions central. Learning a lot about
difference between synchronous and asynchronous activities; synchronous
activities are very engaging for students; students more willing to answer
questions online than f2f; boys school in tough area in London secondary
school, boys much more willing to answer online than in class- 85% not wanting
to offline; 85% willing to online. Classroom facilitation experiences
(coordinate vs. mentor); gone all the way to the heart of classroom teaching
experience- why do it in classrooms if we are all there? While we did it online
teacher went round and mentored as debate happened online- teacher was very
moved by ability to go and give advice and mentor while the system does
stuff they would normally have to do at
front of class. This could be a major impact of the LD approach! We do not know
how frequent that would be. o
Wizard demo §
Some like to start from blank page in design tool,
some don’t. So provide alternative way “Activity
Sequence Wizard”; steps teachers through process. Starts from asking what
teacher’s goal is “Are you trying to deconstruct a concept” then drills down
through possible approaches. Suggests tools, gives examples, template
sequences. Questions:
JC:
Can see the strength, but it looks more like teaching design than learning
design. In HE there’s more than one route through and
learner chooses. How to do it? JD:
Show examples; have only shown linear examples but we have done work with this,
using Optional Activities. Students can choose which one and in what order they
can do it. There is no need to set order. You may want some kind of structure
but not linear, can do that. Transition can be between two sets of optional
activities. This is not the same as very sophisticated learning scenarios; this
is more about collaborative learning activities. And
ability to transition. RE: Very impressed. Instantiation
of LD as a concept. Coding LD files? JD:
Quick answer; when we tried to implement LD spec with Greatness,
couldn’t get all the things in use case to work with LD so had to add things.
Been having discussion with LD spec authors about how to harmonise and add new
features into the future. New spec, not many implementations; need to pool
experiences to go forward. Authoring environment spits out an XML document to
run in runtime engine. Need to align XML with LD spec. Different at nuance
level rather than conceptual. ??: Looking at that; learning styles-
can direct along lines of learning styles? JD: Two ways; one to have branching within system. Didn’t
implement in first version- because it meant you could break the system. Will be in later system.
Two: Could put notice board in directing them to do different activities based
on learning style. Not automatic. So
they can choose if they don’t agree. LB: Lurkers? How to deal? JD:
System steps them through process. System records whole experience; teacher can
see that someone did nothing and take it from there. LB: Accessibility? JD:
Flash; done a lot of work on accessibility. Web pages.
Haven’t done a lot of accessibility testing yet.
Authoring environment for teachers will be most challenging because it is so
visual. Work with experts in future. ??: FE testing to start soon? Where? JD:
Client here in
Learning
Creativity Profile Generator
Prof Glenn Hardaker, Glenn presented his latest work at See Slides. The
underlying design principles are based on empowering
educational culture through directly supporting equity of pedagogy in our
educational institutions. ICT design process in building the LCPG is intended to proactively facilitate inclusive educational
environments and where appropriate challenge our formal thinking as learners
but also as educators. The
LCPG operates both as a stand-alone piece of software and in conjunction with
our Open Learning Environment Tool (OLET) in supporting life long learning. The
aim of the software is to generate a rich profile for learners that will be used with our LMS software and/or by a mentor such
as a tutor or trainer. The specific aims of the LCPG are
directed at gaining depth of understanding of the individual on various
levels concerning the learning and creativity interface. The LCPG is modular
based focused on the following: The individuals
general interests, attitudes and desires – by which the mentor may gain a
better knowledge of the learners perspective. The
pre-attitudes of the learner to formal learning – insight into barriers to
education The
individuals learning preferences and the implications for teaching - visual,
audio, kinaesthetic, tactile learners. The individuals
cognitive learning style, highlighting the preferred teaching style –
considered in context of physically, emotional and mentally centred. The
individuals subject specific creativity– explores creativity skills, motivation
and relevant expertise. The
data collected may be used by the OLET to develop a learning path that will
specifically accommodate the individuals’ requirements in terms of learning
preferences, creative abilities and expertise levels.
For a mentor the LCPG provides a comprehensive knowledge construct in directly
a student-teacher relationship. Certain parts of the system are
specifically designed for interpretation by such a person and will allow
greater collaboration with the individual. The
general outcome for the learner is a report that provides key indicators and
guidance in supporting their educational choices and directions. This report is built dynamically from the results of the learning and
creativity diagnostics and matched to our extensive knowledge base. For example,
a learner who indicates that they respond best to visual stimulus when learning
may find a statement in their report that states something similar to the
following: “When learning you may find that you get the best
results from watching a video, studying charts and images, and reading through
written descriptions….” To
conclude, a brief outline is provided of our knowledge
construction approach toward learning and creativity diagnostics and the
underlying design principles in proactively supporting inclusive educational
environments. DfES
e-learning strategy – Discussion Participants split into groups to discuss the
Department for Education and Skills (DfES) The main website for the
e-learning strategy is: http://www.dfes.gov.uk/elearningstrategy You can download
a copy of the strategy and the consultation response form at:
http://www.dfes.gov.uk/elearningstrategy/strategy.stm Other
participants attended a second demonstration by James Dalziel provided an update on the COLIS project, and the recent launch of the
Macquarie E- learning Centre of Excellence (MELCOE) – a university research
centre devoted to research, development, and implementation of e-learning
architectures and infrastructure using open standards. This was
followed by a general discussion of both presentations by James. James is also subscribed to the Pedagogy Forum Jiscmail list (details
below) and agreed to continue the discussions about his work on the list. General discussion and Forum issues All participants
reconvened for a general discussion. Feedback from the afternoon discussions re
the DfES e-learning strategy highlighted the need for further opportunities to
debate the issues which arose, such as the ‘downsides’ to e-learning and also
the need for cohesion with other strategies within the UK. It was agreed that the discussions should continue and that the
jiscmail list (http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cetis-pedagogy)
should initially be used for this. The next Pedagogy Forum meeting will be held on With
thanks to Sarah Currier for taking notes during the day. If you would like any further information, please do not hesitate to contact Lisa Corley, the Pedagogy Forum Co-ordinator (Telephone: 01204 903851). |
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